I stuck the CO2 on a spare TTR rim yesterday (thanks to Wacky for the waterproof grease delivery!) and was very worried that, as it looked so big, it wouldn't fit in the TTR swing arm - but it did
This was a real surprise as it looked so much bigger than the MT43.
Just fitted the wheel and the clearance at the front against the swing arm is only a little less than a half-worn MT43 trials tyre.
The MT43 is 4.00x18 compared to the MITAS CO2's 120/90-18 so I guess it's the 90% profile that saved it for me!
Took it for a short ride just to start the run in process and it certainly makes the bike a bit taller. Felt a bit skittish on the wet tarmac (like winter here!) but that is only to be expected. Will report back when it has done a few miles.
I now have MITAS front (C19) and rear. They are between £5 and £10 cheaper than the Comp IV and MT43s I usually run so will be interested to see how they perform - and last..
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I ride in the East and am on my 2nd CO2 they last for yonks - may well try a trellaborg amry special (made by same firm) next just to see.
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Thats interesting to hear your comment on the C19 - Brownie....I disliked mine so much I took it off and gave it away
Gone back to a Michy on the front - much better
Mat - Don't really have much rock up this way, so can't really provide a fair opinon but have not found anywhere/anything its not coped with yet.
I just though having see the Army special it looked a bit of a half way between the MT and CO2 and wanted to give one a try - like i say when I do I'll let folks know what I think...
jt wrote:I ride in the East and am on my 2nd CO2 they last for yonks - may well try a trellaborg amry special (made by same firm) next just to see.
Went and met the uk supplier for these today as he lives just down the road to me, I was gonna purchase one off these but he persuaded me to buy a different tyre they do it is the Mitas EF07, He knows my area well and i explained that i do alot off road miles and there is 50-50 stone and mud and i was convinced before i got there that the army special was gonna be the one for me, but he convinced me otherwise, he says that the army special is a good tyre but the EF07 is more suitable for the mixture off terrain I have here and it is long lasting on the road and advised that i run it at 10psi and i would be happy with it. He also advised a slightly wider tyre 130 for my 450 this would give alot better area off contact on the stone, I couldnt get my head round it as the EF07 looks more like a motorcross tyre even though it is designed for enduro riding. I looked at both tyres and tread patterns and the army special is more like the mt43 with bigger blocks and a bit more spacing. So I have gone with what he reccomended and i will see and let you know how i get on with it.(I hope he's write)
The only problem I see with the EF07 is that it is FIM approved which means the knobles are about half the hight of those on the CO2.To me that is a compromise which means it might not bite in as well in deep mud but also it probably won't last as long as the CO2..
It'll probably grip well on the stone though but not as well as an MT43.I generally run Maxxis IT or SI front (& IT rear when the mud comes out).
RichT4 wrote:The only problem I see with the EF07 is that it is FIM approved which means the knobles are about half the hight of those on the CO2.To me that is a compromise which means it might not bite in as well in deep mud but also it probably won't last as long as the CO2..It'll probably grip well on the stone though but not as well as an MT43.I generally run Maxxis IT or SI front (& IT rear when the mud comes out).-- Edited by RichT4 on Tuesday 8th of November 2011 05:11:09 PM
-- Edited by RichT4 on Tuesday 8th of November 2011 05:11:09 PM
I agree, the tread is only 13mm but i had a co2 fantastic in the deep mud but useless on the rock when wet, I presently have a mt43 on the rear and great on the rock but useless in deep mud, I have had to comprimise to try and get something that will do both jobs maybe not perfect at any one thing but a jack off all trades tyre. hmm somethings telling me i should have got the army type tyre, we will see.
What you need is a Mitelli CO43 - half of it is a knobbly and half a block pattern tyre
At least your tyre only spins for half a revolution before gripping, whatever the terrain
Shall I go on Dragon's Den with that idea?