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Hi Mike

I hope you don't mind me merging your post with the existing AJP thread to keep things tidy.

We have two South Devon members with AJPs and they may be along later to give an update on their thoughts wink

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 Excellent thanks Brian



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Hi Mike

I hope you don't mind me merging your post with the existing AJP thread to keep things tidy.

We have two South Devon members with AJPs and they may be along later to give an update on their thoughts wink

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Having had a XT, TTR, DRZ and then a KTM I looking at getting another bike for green laning. The AJP looks a great bike and I know about the engine, assembly, parts etc but wondered if anyone if using one on here. Having had a test ride I was very impressed how easy it was to ride together with some nice parts and looks great. The servicing is long and 2yr parts and labour warranty which is a bonus.

Anyone riding one and could give some feedback on whats it like to live with (must be easier than my ex girlfriend so thats a bonus biggrin). Also at 5"8' I can reach the floor when I need to without struggling !

 

I remember seeing 2 on a ride out ages ago.

 

Thank you

 

 

 



-- Edited by Mike Wright on Saturday 16th of May 2015 10:58:34 AM

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Looks like a great greenlining /TRF fun day bike to me nice and simple 4t electric start .Its what the Honda XR should of been why oh why did the UK never get the e/start versionno such a shame only a handful of the jap import e/starts about and only 250cc imagine a XR400 e/start perfectsmile bit heavy by todays standards I know but simple air cooling , no rads sticking out to break, change the oil once a year, oil the chain quick spray of WD40 and that's about it happy days biggrin 



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http://www.ajpmotos.co.uk/ajp-locations.aspx

 

Wheeldon or Plymouth Moto Park ?

 



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Out of interest where would you buy one from now in the South West? Is there a new dealer?



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The AJP feels light and handles well.Had to raise the handle bars by apprx 20mm made it a lot better when riding standing up.

The standard gearing was to slow on the road,so went up 1 tooth on the front and down 3 on the back sprocket.

Other than the above i've been very pleased with the bike.  FORGOT TO SAY I'VE LEFT THE KICKER ON BUT NOT HAD TO USE IT YET.

P.S I enjoyed that video. May be because the bike is orange. HA.HA.



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TTR wrote:

Two new members who rocked up at our last meeting have bought new Ultrapassars - think they live in Newton Abbot.

Don't know if they are on the forum yet. Think they are friends of Gasser Edwards.

So we should get plenty of feedback one way or another wink

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 Fingers211 and Hev both came on the christmas run. I can confirm the e-start does work well even when said machine has been dropped and turned upside down. The badgers did their worst but it restarted every time. I think they are coming next weekend. Good looking machines.



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Two new members who rocked up at our last meeting have bought new Ultrapassars - think they live in Newton Abbot.

Don't know if they are on the forum yet. Think they are friends of Gasser Edwards.

So we should get plenty of feedback one way or another wink

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Good god JT - let it go! lol


 And 3 posts later your still going on nodisbeliefyawn 


 ...And 4 months later he's still going on!biggrin 

 



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If the battery ever can't start the bike you can always bump start it (as long as your not on a flat muddy or gravelly lane)


 Yea right disbelief Mogwi where are you - please tell Rich just how easy it was to bump your XR when your battery went furious


 Oh yeah...first ever run out..blat flattery..no kicker..bottom of a hot lane not far from town..sweating like Jimmy Saville on a hospital visit.

KEEP THE KICKER.



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Back on topic Mr Sweeper how is the AJP ?



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I do feel sorry for him though after buying a new bike and having to mess about like that although he isnt going to get a sales job at a KTM dealer.



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Take the kicker off, it's just something extra to rattle around.


If the battery ever can't start the bike you can always bump start it


 Tell that to this Boyo wink taken from another thread.....I just could not resist biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

 


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RichT4 wrote:

Take the kicker off, it's just something extra to rattle around.


If the battery ever can't start the bike you can always bump start it


 Tell that to this Boyo wink taken from another thread.....I just could not resist biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

 



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Jerry atterick wrote:

Never mind handbags at dawn, what about the AJP report.
Seems the way to go for TRAILRIDING.


 Agreed, so now Greenlanes is no more where is the nearest place that sells them?

 

Do Wheeldon sell them?



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Never mind handbags at dawn, what about the AJP report.
Seems the way to go for TRAILRIDING.

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Keep the kicker on, will be installing one on my crf in the near future.  Had to bump start mine the other day with much appreciated help, but if I had been in the bottom of a dip somewhere its would have been a different story.  As for cars no longer having starting handles cobblers, we don't take cars where we ride bikes not everyone carries jump leads, if you can get easily to the battery that is.  As for the recovery services they will only recover from the tarmac  road so for me a kick start is a must especially if you do a lot of solo laning.



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Good god JT - let it go! lol


 And 3 posts later your still going on nodisbeliefyawn

 

 



-- Edited by jt on Sunday 29th of September 2013 07:32:25 PM

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Rich tempting fate? I love it !!! fingers crossed he'll regret those words shortly! I've got both and occasionally use the kicker, the most useful was when I went to watch the Exeter trial at Simms and left the handwarmers on. Nice warm grips but no go!


LOL - yeh, I know... Fate will be sat on the back on my bike waiting for the next time I'm knee deep in water or mud and stall.

You should have wired those hand warmers through a small relay off the ignition Dan, simple to do.

I suppose having a kick starter makes you care less about the battery..., thus the lack of sufficient recharging will make it weaker.

 



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The original battery in mine died when I got the bike and it let me down on short a run, first owner (and mate) use to charge it with a car charger (the plank), I still managed to bump her though but did call it a day. I was pretty down on not having a kick starter then.
I replaced the battery and bought an Optimate, which is only uses occasionally and not as a tender - that battery lasted almost 9 years!
I noticed recently that my engine was turning over slower for the first start of the day and that was my warning that the battery was getting weak, slapped a new battery in and she's strong from the off again.

I think the bad rep for battery start trail bikes (if there is one) is caused by the enduro bikes as their batteries are small and not really suitable for the job.




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Rich tempting fate? I love it !!! fingers crossed he'll regret those words shortly! I've got both and occasionally use the kicker, the most useful was when I went to watch the Exeter trial at Simms and left the handwarmers on. Nice warm grips but no go!

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My xr is button only and has a very strong battery ,it never struggles



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Just carry a small pair of m/c jump leads e.g. see here wink


 And if your out with Doug and myself what are you going to connect them to? no


Good god JT - let it go! lol

Take care of your battery and it'll take care of you...

...still haven't needed a kick starter since this thread started.wink



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Just carry a small pair of m/c jump leads e.g. see here wink


 And if your out with Doug and myself what are you going to connect them to? no



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How are you getting on with your Ultrapasser?

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Interesting to see at least one AJP dealer recognising the interest that is likely to come form the TRF.
Taken from the national TRF forum.
http://www.trf.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13829


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Interesting to see at least one AJP dealer recognising the interest that is likely to come form the TRF.
Taken from the national TRF forum.
http://www.trf.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13829



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Shame I would of liked to try the air cooled pr5 .Would be like having a brand new XR250r with e start perfect ! much better than the Honda CRF250L .


 It looks like they have dumped the aircooled PR5 for 2013 and opting for an LC 250 injection engine, the aircooled version no longer features on their model list, but have a new model which is a PR4 240 with air cooled which is actually 233cc but not much different in power from the 250 AC but not injected. All very confusing really.

The upside is that the new LC PR5 is injected and has more power and I think a 6 speed box but whether that extra poke is sacrificed for the low down tractable power and reliability of the air cooled lump it has replaced would be doubtful.

Must be a good reason why they have gone with LC on the new PR5, but quite why I dunno.


Umm don't think that's a good move going water cooled the the main draw to AJP was that the made good old easy maintanace air cooled powerd new bikes with good looks,suspension brakes etc .  Other manufactures do high revving water cooled bikes much better than they could ever dream of producing ! 



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I'm never going to spend £6000 on a laner....


 
That is how I felt until Sunday afternoon but there comes a time in one's life when you just have to say "fuc* it, I've had enough of pis*ing about!"  It won't be just used for lanes though.... wink


 Thought you were joking about ordering one!

Nice one mate smile look forward to seeing it.



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If you really want to try one give PCMP a shout they have some and you can try em out then even try em on the moto x circuit

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Shame I would of liked to try the air cooled pr5 .Would be like having a brand new XR250r with e start perfect ! much better than the Honda CRF250L .


 It looks like they have dumped the aircooled PR5 for 2013 and opting for an LC 250 injection engine, the aircooled version no longer features on their model list, but have a new model which is a PR4 240 with air cooled which is actually 233cc but not much different in power from the 250 AC but not injected. All very confusing really.

The upside is that the new LC PR5 is injected and has more power and I think a 6 speed box but whether that extra poke is sacrificed for the low down tractable power and reliability of the air cooled lump it has replaced would be doubtful.

Must be a good reason why they have gone with LC on the new PR5, but quite why I dunno.



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Fair point hoops ill try and ask around not sure we can count on southwest dealers attending ill make a few phone calls regarding 19th Aug and see what turns up ?


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Shame I would of liked to try the air cooled pr5 .Would be like having a brand new XR250r with e start perfect ! much better than the Honda CRF250L .

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Not that I was going to be attending the event anyway but an AJP was what I had my eye on when I can afford it, at the moment converting the workshop in Torquay to two semi detached houses so can't do anything until they are built and one is sold.

Don't recall much slagging off on this forum (maybe other areas?) but you are bound to get some negative comments same as any manufacturer. I know Tim rode the PR5 in Spain and thought very highly of them, the trail company were going to replace them with the newer models as well so they cannot have been that bad.

Seems they would be missing out on getting their product known and recognised more so than they are now. They appear to offer good value for money built with some decent kit and ticking many of the trail bike needs and wants. Sure enough on an MX track they will get blown away by its equivelent MX bikes but for trail riding? Surely they got to be okay?

 



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I'm never going to spend £6000 on a laner....


 
That is how I felt until Sunday afternoon but there comes a time in one's life when you just have to say "fuc* it, I've had enough of pis*ing about!"  It won't be just used for lanes though.... wink



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especially now if they've been berated on TRF forums. 

 Is it the bikes or the dealer thats been berated?



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I agree most TRF'ers buy 2nd hand but myself for one would be seriously interested in a new bike at not much more of the cost of a 2nd hand one.....I'm never going to spend £6000+ on a laner but £3500 on a new one and I could be convinced.

Am very dissapointed as have looked at the AJP's a few times and would have liked to have tried one, we do have a member on this forum who has a new Ultrapassar and got it in Exeter. Personally I think they are missing a trick as I would have thought that for a company selling things built specifically for LDT's and stuff like an 250 air cooled 4t then 'we' would be right in there sights! - can't see the 'full on' competion boys wanting them and nor would commuters - but if any good they would suit what we do down to a 'T' blankstare

Shame cry

 



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I'm with hoops. Is this event likely to create any serious advertising for them, or many new bike sales?
Most of us just buy used bikes anyway.

It would be nice to see one and maybe have a go. If they were already doing something close by it'd be a no brainer but to come out especially... Hmm. I'm not sure I would if it were my company.
Maybe if the test generated a Trial mag review that would be an incentive?
Maybe there is a TRF officer that lives close to them so could borrow a bike and do a review?

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If I ran this firm I wouldn't want to go to the expense of bringing some of my bikes to an event for people to ride who have no intention of buying (said this before in another discussion in this subject), especially now if they've been berated on TRF forums.  I don't see the issue really, we asked, they're not coming.  Why not ask another manufacturer?



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Surely thy should be keen to show off their bikes abilitys to put the doubters in there place??

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Ok, so we chuck our teddy in the corner at the slightest comment, not the way to do business in my eyes.

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Ok, seems they do not want our business, thats fine by me will have to carry on buying my favourite brand then. Strange how they can take a trip to Ireland though !!!

http://www.ajpmotos.co.uk/ajp-news-article.aspx?itemid=28071

 

So the AJP Dealer in Dorset is not interested ? 



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Plus members within the TRF have been less than complementary of there business awhile ago it appears there no show to a organised TRF event they have been slanted on our forums ?


 

Let this be a lesson, 'outsiders' do read our forums and childish negative comments will be noticed.  This is a public forum which is visible to the public.....

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I've been in contact with the importers regarding AJP attending our event I regret to inform the masses there not attending now before anyone goes off on one I've been in discussions with there management they are a midland based company and economics aren't in there favor to start with attending our local event this is sad ! Plus members within the TRF have been less than complementary of there business awhile ago it appears there no show to a organised TRF event they have been slanted on our forums ? There  reasons were due to a family bereavement for that I would like to extend apologies  for our  ignorance to there family loss , the AJP brand is doing swell international but as mentioned its not viable to attend our meet there will be no local support from there local supplier at this time lost



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 Why not ask another manufacturer?


 Yes why not indeed, i doubt if any of the KTM dealers will they have no problems selling there bikes. biggrinbiggrin I would ask Husky but not sure which colour they will be nono.



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The AJPs are cracking bikes, but leave the kicker on.  Leccy start only bikes are a pain in the harse.  I know, I've got one.


 What.............a pain in the arse ?????


You can't ay arse as it's rather rude.  Harse is an acceptable replacement is my book.



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jt wrote:

More I look at that AJP the more I like it - green frame is nice....

Love to see it in the flesh smile


 Wheeldon have 4 200cc models....... AJP did have  demo models down there for a couple weeks which i tried before i bought.



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More I look at that AJP the more I like it - green frame is nice....

Love to see it in the flesh smile



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If the battery ever can't start the bike you can always bump start it (as long as your not on a flat muddy or gravelly lane)


 Yea right disbelief Mogwi where are you - please tell Rich just how easy it was to bump your XR when your battery went furious



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