The UK became a signatory of the European Convention on Human Rights in 1951 but the Human Rights Act wasn't passed by Parliament until 1998. These things take time.
Just because an idea has been floated it doesn't mean it will become law tomorrow.
I suggest people contact our local MEP to voice their concerns.
Picked up a copy of MAM in a local cafe today, there was an article about this in there. As usual there was also the excellent DTRF article too (well done Steve H for that ).
I didn't say give up, I was just commenting that he didn't do anything for us when our jobs were on the line, as a consequence he'll never get a vote from me! BTW we weren't whinging we had a well organised campaign and the fact that I'm still working for the same outfit means we were successful!!
Not directed at anyone in particular just an observation.
That is the problem with sequential forum threads, the last person always thinks you are talking about them. Society is very insecure.
If enough people drove off the cliffs at Sidmouth do you think they would build a bridge to France? People power can work but lots of people die first....
-- Edited by Simmo on Thursday 1st of September 2011 10:57:24 PM
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Well done Dan - I think we all need reminding that taking action can get results sometimes. .. and not to simply rely on your local councillor, MP or MEP to do it for you as they have their own agenda too.
It just gets worse (and yes this affects dirt bikes):
From MAG's General Secretary Nich Brown :
European Type Approval Regulations that would bring compulsory ABS to all new bikes, alongside anti-modification measures and road-side spot checks to enforce them, took another step forward on Tuesday (30th August 2011).
Fortunately, there is something you can do about it first though, here are the main restrictions that look set to be introduced on new bikes from 2015:
Compulsory Anti-lock and/or Combined Braking Systems on all new motorcycles and scooters over 50cc.
Advanced braking systems add cost and complexity to the manufacture and servicing of bikes, but do not always help the rider (especially on loose surfaces such as gravel). The Commission's evidence that the costs are outweighed by the benefits is patchy and may rely too much on data from commercial interests. Consumers should retain the choice to specify ABS if they want it, there should always be an option to disable ABS when necessary.
Three new progressively tighter emissions limits to be introduced over 5 years.
Real-world trials of various sizes of bikes and comparable cars on commuting routes show that bikes offer shorter journey-times and lower fuel-consumption. The Commission's evidence relies on one source and does not adequately consider the additional costs and impacts on fuel-economy from adding pollution control technology developed for large vehicles on to small lightweight vehicles. The Commission justifies this by emphasising that bikes account for a growing proportion of some traffic pollutants, but the context is that the total generated by all types of vehicle has fallen to a very low level.
Devices to prevent modification of the engine or transmission (including restricted choice of air-filter, drive sprockets or rear-tyre).
Riders of identical bikes are not themselves identical, nor are their journeys. Bikes used mostly on motorways need different drive characteristics to those used mostly on urban streets or rural roads, these can be achieved easily, eg; by choosing different drive sprockets or tyre dimensions. The Commission wishes to add cost and complexity to vehicle design so that owners will be restricted in modifying their bikes to suit their needs in this way. Partly the Commission wants to stop novice riders tuning their bikes to perform better than their driving licence allows. The Commission prefer to penalise riders who want to de-restrict their learner-bike once they are fully qualified, not to mention already-qualified riders who need or want lightweight bikes with good performance.
Computer chips on every bike to monitor and ultimately disable engines.
The Commission envisages basic chips on all bikes to record breaches of emission limits as a pre-cursor to requiring more sophisticated devices capable of disabling bikes and storing information about riding characteristics at a later stage.
Road-side checks of passing bikes (but not cars)
The Commission proposes all EU Member States should mount road-side checks of passing bikes as one means of enforcing restrictions on riders ability to modify their bikes. This iniquitous threat to the free-movement of citizens does not extend to people travelling in modified cars.
Impact on after-market parts suppliers
The Commissions impact assessment considers the effect of changes on the manufacturers of original equipment to the detriment of alternative suppliers of after-market components and spare parts, future consumer-choice of replacement parts has not been adequately considered.
Power and speed limits to restrict development of electric motorcycles
The development of electric drive technology could see the development of low-, medium- and high-performance alternatives to fossil-fuel bikes in the foreseeable future. The Commission wishes to restrict that competition by imposing speed and power limits on electric bikes. This gross interference in the development of consumer choice may also indicate an intention to restrict the performance of future cars or other personal transport vehicles.
Last Tuesday, a meeting of 'IMCO', the Internal Market and Consumer Protection Committee of MEPs which is overseeing the European Commission's proposals, discussed progress on negotiations with the Commission on more than 300 amendments tabled by MEPs.
Sadly, it looks as though Dutch MEP Wim van de Camp, who is taking the lead in negotiations with the Commission, not only agrees with many of the Commissions proposals, he sees little room for compromise on most of the amendments put forward by his fellow MEPs. The alliances formed between different blocks of political parties in the European Parliament could yet deliver a majority of votes to Mr van de Camp unless we all do something to turn it around.
What can be done..?
1. There is a very simple way to contact the MEPs that represent you, and put forward our case against further restrictions on bike-design and use of bikes BEFORE these decisions are cast in stone. Vital discussions are going on in the next few days and weeks so please go to www.writetothem.com and tell them how you feel about the points listed above (cut and paste the seven bullet points above if you need to).
2. UK-wide protests are being organised for 1pm on Sunday 25th September - this is your opportunity to defend the riders' right to decide what they ride and to modify their bikes to suit their needs (not to mention oppose compulsory day-glo, bans on older bikes in cities, etc.). For further details of more than 70 starting points on the UK trunk road network go to: http://www.facebook.com/pages/25th-S...18514361530962
In the meantime, MAG continues to lobby our own Department for Transport, UK MEPs and MPs to oppose any further restrictions on bikes and riders. MAG will be meeting DfT officials again in a few days time - more to follow.
Video of the IMCO meeting, as well as official papers describing the Commissions proposals and the 300+ suggested amendments, can be found on the EU website (the video shows discussion about the Type Approval Regulations from 15:54:30 to 16:26:00): http://www.europarl.europa.eu/wps-eu...at=wmv#anchor1
If you do watch the video, pay attention to Mr van de Camps introduction youll hear that he is a motorcyclist (he has a collection of bikes including an R1), that he had a crash recently and that he believes ABS would have prevented it. He says he is working on the Type Approval regulations as an MEP rather than as a rider.
Tankersley Services near j36 M1. This is a learner friendly start point.
A63
Ferriby services westbound HU14 3LN
A64
The Highwayman Cafe, York YO32 9TL
A9
Tore Services, north of Inverness IV6 7RZ
A90
Strathcartho services, between Perth and Aberdeen
Ellon park and ride, north of Aberdeen
Others
SK1 4LG Harley Centre, Stockport
Closer to the date, we will be have a final, complete list of all the actual start points.
It will be here, on the www.ridersarevoters.org website and many other places. As you can see we've already got venues from Plymouth to Aberdeen on most M-ways and major trunk routes, but if you or your bike club would like to be a 'starter', contact us for co-ordinated action.
-- Edited by Hoops on Friday 9th of September 2011 08:30:23 PM
Putting a letter together this w/e, done a bit of research, the proposed regs. seem to say that you won't even be able to change the profile of a tyre, so if you like MT43s and don't have one fitted as standard from new, you won't be able to fit one
Putting a letter together this w/e, done a bit of research, the proposed regs. seem to say that you won't even be able to change the profile of a tyre, so if you like MT43s and don't have one fitted as standard from new, you won't be able to fit one
Sounds like the market for older pre-new-regulations dirt bikes will improve then
Putting a letter together this w/e, done a bit of research, the proposed regs. seem to say that you won't even be able to change the profile of a tyre, so if you like MT43s and don't have one fitted as standard from new, you won't be able to fit one
Said before we need a revolution......mark my words....its coming.....
Seriously considering a move to Nepal myself ......
After e-mailing my MP, I received a written reply today, here it is:
The European Commission has proposed these new regulations to help harmonise standards for new motorcycles across the European Union. I think this will help both consumers and producers in the UK: producers will be able to access markets across the UK without having to modify their product to meet domestic regulations, while consumers will benefit from a wider range of motorcycles on the market in the UK and improved safety regulations.
I am aware, however, that many motorcyclists are concerned about the specific anti-tampering measures for new motorcycles that are included in these regulations.
The EU Commission states these changes could improve road safety and environmental standards and while I accept there may be benefits to applying anti-tampering measures to small motorcycles intended for learner drivers, I do not agree that a blanket ban on tampering should be introduced across larger vehicles. Indeed, I appreciate that such a ban could prevent some motorcyclists from being able to tune or make improvements to their bike and I would like to see the UK Government reach an alternative to such a ban.
The UK Government are currently consulting on the European Commissions proposals and I would strongly recommend that you respond to the public consultation, outlining your concerns with this measure and the other areas of the Commissions proposals that concern you.
I have now written to the Department for Transport about this matter. As soon as I receive a reply I will contact you again.
Thank you once again for writing to me and I can assure you that I will carefully consider the Governments final proposal and the consultation responses.
All I can say is please write to your MPs sooner rather than later, and also take part in the consultation which expires on 28.10.11.