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Updated MOT - LED conversion now MOT fail.


Updated MOT - LED conversion now MOT fail. Another rewrite required then!
4.1.4. Compliance with requirements
Existing halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.



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My guess is that it would be ok if it were a new E marked LED headlight?

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just get it tested without lights ! Tape em up !

 



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It stems from the way the light is emitted in a different way from a halogen bulb compared to HID or LED. These newer bulbs require a different design of reflector and lens. It's a reaction to the trend of modified car owners fitting e-marked HID bulbs, but without the suitable e-marked reflector/lens, self-levelling device or lens cleaning, that are required for similar OEM fitment.

Just having an e-marked bulb is not sufficient. 

I think we've all been dazzled by unbelievable bright headlamps on on-coming cars. This is DVSA's sledgehammer solution. Finally.


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OTT wrote:


just get it tested without lights ! Tape em up !

 


 Can you do that with a car?



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The car testers manual says; 

You do not need to test headlamps on vehicles if:

  • they're not fitted with front or rear position lamps
  • they have front or rear position lamps that are permanently disconnected, painted over or masked

Car MOT testers do not come across 'Presented without lights' instances as much as a bike testers who see alot of trail bikes which don't have dip/main headlamps or 2x brake light switches, such as my old KDX and have all the lights taped up. Some testers have insisted that all the lighting components should be removed to qualify, not just taped up(masked), but that is not what the manual says.

But your answer is yes.

MOT check screenshot.jpg

 



-- Edited by Tribey on Friday 15th of January 2021 10:24:41 AM

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Tyres are next no  date stamped hmm



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wackyracer wrote:

Tyres are next no  date stamped hmm


 Blimmey they must be bored , I can understand cracked tyres etc but dated is a bit extreme



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Mike Wright wrote:
wackyracer wrote:

Tyres are next no  date stamped hmm


 Blimmey they must be bored , I can understand cracked tyres etc but dated is a bit extreme


For vehicles stood for quite some time without high/medium mileage - Thats me Fecked then biggrin

Perishing rubber, cracks, Etc...

 

 



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I would think tyres are lot more important than bright lights. Probably safe enough for us lot. By the very nature of our pastime, were in there, cuts / worn etc.
Not being funny, but how much work do lights really involve!!
Puncture, breakdown etc, riding back in the dark is a pain.
Been there, was a giggle but defo pull.
If you're bike is prepped anything like sensible then lights can't be a serious issue??
Like Bri says, asking for a friend.

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I'm not sure of the plans for age of tyres on bikes and cars, but for fronts on commercial trucks and some minibuses, the maximum 10 years old rule starts on 1st Feb.



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Tribey wrote:

I'm not sure of the plans for age of tyres on bikes and cars, but for fronts on commercial trucks and some minibuses, the maximum 10 years old rule starts on 1st Feb.


 Yep correct and it'll filter down through the vehicle network although probably will take some time, hopefully wink



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Tribey wrote:

I'm not sure of the plans for age of tyres on bikes and cars, but for fronts on commercial trucks and some minibuses, the maximum 10 years old rule starts on 1st Feb.


 In that case you havent got a 120/90/18 please the same as the Maxxis IT Pro pattern biggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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The MOT regulations allow LED or HID conversion of halogen headlamps on motorcycles, but not cars.
The MOT regulations permit use of LED or HID conversion on cars only if the entire headlamp is changed to one specifically designed for that type of lamp



-- Edited by Dave H on Saturday 5th of February 2022 08:53:35 PM

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