Devon TRF Group Forum

Matt_Sykes · Novice

Punctures!

dave williams · Novice

mousse bolt in valve. blow it up to seat bead on rim. air will seep away or let it out of the valve.

RichT4 · Champion

Or there's the TUbliss system.

Also years ago I remember there was an alternative to the TUbliss product, similar system but I can't remember its name.

Tribey · Expert

RichT4 wrote:
Also years ago I remember there was an alternative to the TUbliss product, similar system but I can't remember its name.

Was it tennis balls?

RichT4 · Champion

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No, I think it was available via Trellesport.

They called it something like the T-lock tubless system.

Maybe this is what it was.

https://www.tlockconcept.com/

This page reviews a few different systems.

https://adventure-motorcycling.com/2019/03/14/tubliss-and-similar-tubeless-cores/

Jerry atterick · Expert

Tubliss. Used for years now.
Most desirable quality, 360° wheel clamp.
Worst bit, need 180 gm weight opposite valves.
Can be ridden flat to get home in the event of a catastrophic slice.
Tested both tyres flat, a bit sketchy upto 5mph, definitely doable in the event.
Modern mouses much better but they go dead after a few months.
Heavy duty tubes are no better than normal, IMHO.
Just much heavier.

CuredMeat · Clubman B

Considering a Tubliss set up costs the same as a Michelin mousse per wheel, my money would be on Tubliss if youre sick of tubes.

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

Did you get thorn or pinch punctures ?

Kwaka Geoff · Expert

Jerry atterick wrote:
Tubliss. Used for years now.
Most desirable quality, 360° wheel clamp.
Worst bit, need 180 gm weight opposite valves.
Can be ridden flat to get home in the event of a catastrophic slice.
Tested both tyres flat, a bit sketchy upto 5mph, definitely doable in the event.
Modern mouses much better but they go dead after a few months.
Heavy duty tubes are no better than normal, IMHO.
Just much heavier.

Cant say I'd agree with your comment about Mousses "going dead" after a couple of months. I've been running the same set of Michelin Mousses in my 450 (front and rear) for years now (like 5!!!) and they're fine, for trail riding (imo). Mousses all the way for me. 100% trouble free riding.

Kwaka Geoff · Expert

CuredMeat wrote:
Considering a Tubliss set up costs the same as a Michelin mousse per wheel, my money would be on Tubliss if youre sick of tubes.

Even though - according to Jerry Atterick - you could ride a totally split tyre home as the TubLISS essentally creates a full circumstance rim lock, thats still likely gunna be a rather lengthy and precarious ride home so Id personally much rather have a mousse as it represents 100% trouble free riding (in my experience of many, many years of using mousses) Each to their own though I guess.

Jerry atterick · Expert

I agree, pretty much.
I've been told modern mousses are much better.
In the day when racing all the time, last year's bike on mousses, new bike on standard tubes.
I was gobsmacked at the difference. That was the point I switched.
Mousses are easier to change.
For those that don't know, Hepsleve pipe grease is perfect mousse lube.
Free or very cheap, depends on your source.
Used for years with no issues.