Devon TRF Group Forum

Take the kicker off, it's just something extra to rattle around.
If the battery is good you'll never use the kicker, keep the battery topped up by using something like an optimate, just use it over night every few rides or after a period of storage. I don't leave mine on all the time (as a battery tender) though you can if you want too.

If the battery ever can't start the bike you can always bump start it (as long as your not on a flat muddy or gravelly lane)

Since owning my bike I've never once had to use the kick start, which is just as well as it doesn't have one.

 

....but I suppose if your bike already has a kick start there you may as well just leaving there, just in case.

-- Edited by RichT4 on Saturday 27th of April 2013 05:32:14 PM

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The AJPs are cracking bikes, but leave the kicker on.  Leccy start only bikes are a pain in the harse.  I know, I've got one.

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 What's.............a pain in the Harse ?????

-- Edited by Longman on Monday 29th of April 2013 05:52:14 AM

The AJPs are cracking bikes, but leave the kicker on.  Leccy start only bikes are a pain in the harse.  I know, I've got one.

Because it's got a electric starter.Nobody carries a starting handle in there car these days do they.

I'm sooooooooo jealous. Really interested to know how you get on. 

 

 

Just noticed it has rear pegs.....

Ultrapassar 240. see http://www.ajpmotos.co.uk/bikes/view/pr3_240cc_ultrapassar/3

It's mine, bought today.  Sold the hi tech WR250R and bought a low tech AJP.

sweeper wrote:

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Because it's got a electric starter.Nobody carries a starting handle in there car these days do they.

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 I've got a starting handle in my car ,,,,,and after electric problems I would never take it out     It tucks out of the way! 

Land I know if all else fails .....

-- Edited by Lostboyscout on Friday 26th of April 2013 10:32:42 PM

One of these in N.Devon.

Ultrapassar 240........Will let you know how it gets on.

-- Edited by TTR on Friday 26th of April 2013 04:18:59 PM

I don't think so... it would be a great idea for sure but I came across this thread about it from 2003 so I think if it were going to be anything it would already be out there.

Just been informed on Face book of a new AJP 400 it's a one off at the mo but looks very much like a DRZ in a chunky alloy frame ? Time will tell 

A message sent today - copied from the National forum:

There'll be some 5 month old AJP 200cc PR3's hitting the classifieds in a few weeks, riding school's upping to 240's - only a handful of hours on - early bird discounts available,,*nudge nudge* Nod, wink etc - I know a man.....

PR5 demonstrator for sale here 

 

 

AJP were at the 2012 NEC Motorcycle Live bike show, with quite a large stand, which showed some promise.

 

I thought the Ultrapassar looked like an interesting alternative to the CRF230. The AJP staff said it was not an official AJP-Portugal model, but an AJP UK bike aimed at LDT riders, using the PR3 frame but with larger wheels and then lower grade shorter travel suspension than the PR5 model.

 

They said they are keen to let punters have a look at their bikes and had planned to be at the Cotton Farm 2012 Devon TRF event on behalf of Albion Motorcycles, but of course the day was cancelled. They also entered the Moor to Sea on a PR3 and came in 11^th in class.

 

They said they would support Green Lane Motorcycles at future events and if Green Lane wished to buy an Ultrapassar to use as a demonstrator then punters could try it out. The guy obviously saw my expression when he mentioned that the dealers had to buy the demonstrators from them, but said that this was the industry norm.

They said the new 240cc electric start engine was arriving in early 2013, to fit the PR3, so would also be available in the Ultrapassar.

The engine is not made in Portugal, but somewhere in Asia, to the spec chosen by AJP. Apparently they can chose what spec what they like, design, components and bearings etc, to a price, so they chose a good spec as they are offering a 2 year warranty.

I see the power and torque figures are a smidge down on the CRF230, I was hoping being a newer design it would be a bit higher, but I suppose they chose longevity and long service intervals over outright power. It is quoted as being much lighter than the CRF though.

It would be priced at about £3600 and comes with a 2 year guarantee.

So I would be interested to try one if they could get one down.

 

I have been keeping an eye on the AJP UK website for official news and my interest waned when I saw that until very very recently they were still showing Albion as one of their dealers and still had no mention of Green Lane Motorcycles.

 

Hopefully after a ride, I can make my mind up.

-- Edited by Tribey on Wednesday 16th of January 2013 05:17:28 PM

Can you ask AJP Uk if they can bring along their Ultrapassar demo with the 240cc air cooled engine?

Didn't know they did a 240 now really like the look of the 200 passar but was put off by it being only a 200, but a 240 now thats very tempting.....

 

Yer tizz

-- Edited by jt on Tuesday 15th of January 2013 09:53:39 PM

Well fans of the AJP are going to feel more like putting there hands in there pockets now new motor water cooled three off road versions and a supa motto version ,plus the trail version under cuts the traily honda mmmmm plus plus next year the bikes gets a patented fancy cam shaft that just bolts into the new motor oohhh yep looking good AJP and yes IDE like ago on one anybody able to sort a test day for Devons finest ? Wonder if they would come to Phenix park ? Anyways read more in this months TBM lost

I have had a close look at the AJP at Albion it appears there are two PR5s as mentioned in TBM test the mods a free flowing exhaust system sim to the Akrapovic design the only mods I would consider when last chatting to Gary were some flex levers ? And hand guards that's it , so what was there to like we'll good equip wide pegs Paioli sus good wheels fat bars the XR lump you could go down the 280 rout later ? It was slim although a little tall for some but then there is the PR4 ? Around a sturdy bike should get through one of our winters no problem with out a rusty exhaust etc P.S it's got a Estart ! -----Approved

Doug it's an XR250 motor that has been modernised and made under licence (I'm assuming by AJP)
Having ridden one at this years Dawn To Dusk event I'd say it's a vast improvement over the original Honda motor and having ridden it back to back with my Beta I'd say the bikes performance was much the same in the conditions I rode in. It may be different riding them flat out on a forest road but then we don't do a lot of that. My Beta has a 350 kitted KTM 4T motor.

Its something i would consider when i can no longer ride the full on enduro bikes anymore.

And for the long distance trials:

PR3 200cc Ultrapassar

-- Edited by doug9270 on Thursday 18th of October 2012 10:14:47 AM

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Pete wrote:

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 standing - Hardly appropriate terminology!

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 A pun, or play on words, sarcasm intended. Cheap shot I know.

(Didn't mention the disposable pistons though).

Pete wrote:

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 standing - Hardly appropriate terminology!

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