Devon TRF Group Forum

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

RE: and Devons new AJP dealer is?.................

Rob Drake · Clubman B

maggotman wrote:
they fall apart just like the lower cc ccms riejue dont see why you wouldent spend that money on a 2 or 3 year old bike instead of somting cheep and nasty look what ajp make for a start all the components for the cheeper bikes breaks for derbi gilara 50cc scoters etc

-- Edited by maggotman on Wednesday 17th of October 2012 09:33:37 AM

The AJP that makes brakes is/was Spanish and not related to AJP Motos. I agree that for most people a 2-3 year old Jap or Euro enduro bike would probably represent a better bet but the AJP is not in the same market place, it is a trail bike that can be raced if you wished.

AJP really need to get some of these bikes out there in customer hands to prove one way or the other if they're up to the rigours of everyday ownership.

Laserman · Clubman B

different company from the brakes and i rode with nick from the importer on the moor to sea and i was well impressed with how it rode and the components used it looked quite neat,the ajp brakes are used on most trials bikes and are very good.

if you look at the results he scored a lot less marks than some on 2 or 3 year old second hand enduro bikes and he flew up the hillclimb.

Pete · Devon's Best

Thanks guys.

I wondered where he got his bikes from.

Loved Simmo's answer.

Tigerman · Expert

delvey91 wrote:
Scrap yard in plymouth

Beat me to the answer then Jack!

Tigerman · Expert

Pete wrote:
Simmo wrote:
TTR wrote:
maggotman wrote:

only dealer for ajp should be emr
A bit harsh?
Just check the birthday and let it slide....
emr?
Can anyone explain please, is it another lazy text speak typo I should have been able to guess?

Exeter metal recycling Peter. I think it's an attempt at sarcasm!

delvey91 · Devon's Best

Scrap yard in plymouth

Pete · Devon's Best

Simmo wrote:
TTR wrote:
maggotman wrote:

only dealer for ajp should be emr
A bit harsh?
Just check the birthday and let it slide....

emr?

Can anyone explain please, is it another lazy text speak typo I should have been able to guess?

maggotman · Clubman A

they fall apart just like the lower cc ccms riejue dont see why you wouldent spend that money on a 2 or 3 year old bike instead of somting cheep and nasty look what ajp make for a start all the components for the cheeper bikes breaks for derbi gilara 50cc scoters etc

-- Edited by maggotman on Wednesday 17th of October 2012 09:33:37 AM

Simmo · Expert

TTR wrote:
maggotman wrote:

only dealer for ajp should be emr
A bit harsh?

Just check the birthday and let it slide.... wink

TTR · Powermonger!!

maggotman wrote:

only dealer for ajp should be emr

A bit harsh?

maggotman · Clubman A

only dealer for ajp should be emr

Tigerman · Expert

romdobbs wrote:
The 200cc model was on display in the clubhouse at the MoorToSea,this weekend, and also at least one competing, didn't see a rep. but assume Greenlane? Must admit they are tempting, but that weight?. I wonder how much can be lost by reasonable tweaking?

Seemed light enough to me, after what I am used to riding!

jt · Powermonger!!

This one looks interesting

Ultrapassar, AJPs Long Distance Trial special

Our new baby has been creating quite a stir on the Dirt bike forums and you can see why..

Based on the proven PR3 platform, with its sturdy Honda designed 200cc fourstroke powerplant, the Ultrapassar wears larger wheels and trails tyres, with a more robust 520 chainset and tough ally bash plate.

The engines economy, allied with light weight and stiff chassis makes for a highly durable and manoeverable weapon for the technical sections. With excellent ground clearance and tractability, the Ultrapassar should prove a formidable foe on the long Distance Trial circuit as well as a very useful and flexible tool on the Green Lanes.

Available to order, it also enjoys the benefit of AJPs 2 year warrantee for complete mechanical peace of mind and a very attractive price tag of just £3699 OTR. Effectively you can now compete on a brand new bike, or combine its strengths and combine commuting and green laning to get even better value from your modest investment.

Contact us for more info - and to find out where you can see one in the flesh, we hope to roll out some demo bikes in the near future. These bikes will be a limited edition, so act quickly to secure yours.

-- Edited by jt on Tuesday 16th of October 2012 07:10:43 PM

jt · Powermonger!!

ENGINE/ COOLING	1 cylinder, 4 stroke, 4 v. air and oil cooled, OHC
DISPLACEMENT	249 cm3
POWER	18,4 Kw / 8500 RPM
TORQUE	17,0 N.M / 7000 RPM
CARBURATOR	Delphi fuel injection system 34mm
ENGINE START/GEARBOX	Electric / 6 speed
FRONT SUSPENSION	Sachs 48 mm - 300mm stroke - multi adjustable
REAR SUSPENSION	ZF Sachs - 300mm stroke - multi adjustable
FRONT / REAR BRAKE	Disc 260mm / Disc 240mm
SEAT HEIGHT	940mm
WEIGHT	115 Kg Don't seem that bad?
FUEL TANK	7,5 L
FRONT / REAR TIRES	90/90 - 21" / 120/80 - 18"
AVAILABLE COLORS	White

And the 200 (PR4) is only 89Kg !

-- Edited by jt on Tuesday 16th of October 2012 07:00:40 PM

romdobbs · Clubman B

The 200cc model was on display in the clubhouse at the MoorToSea,this weekend, and also at least one competing, didn't see a rep. but assume Greenlane? Must admit they are tempting, but that weight?. I wonder how much can be lost by reasonable tweaking?

Tigerman · Expert

Never appealed at the time Jon, just got offered a ride today so took it.... smile

jt · Powermonger!!

How come you didn't look at them when Albion had them in then mate confuse

Tigerman · Expert

Called in Greenlane today to get some chain lube for the Tenere. ( no Scotoiler yet!) Nearly came out with a new AJP. Very tempted, took the demo P5 250 out for a spin.

Lovely bit of kit with a good spec, felt like a Enduro bike seems well put together. If I hadn't just changed bikes, I would have been tempted. Maybe when the bike fund has been replenished! wink

Nice to see we still have a reliable local garage stocking them. Support your local dealer!!

Simmo · Expert

Goog news!

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

Never mind, lucky i only like Huskies.

lasuze · Novice

delvey91 wrote:
Oh dear

Quite !

delvey91 · Devon's Best

Oh dear

lasuze · Novice

Rob Drake wrote:
Greenlanes motorcycles

Oh joy!

Rob Drake · Clubman B

Greenlanes motorcycles

TTR · Powermonger!!

RE: Recommendations for new AJP dealers wanted

Simmo · Expert

jt wrote:
B) Like wise as long as you remember that also....

I'll try but it is dependant on the voices..... wink

Nige · Expert

Had a look cant find any data on the PR5 but only 17 PR4's have been registered in the UK since 2010!!!!!!!!!

jt · Powermonger!!

Simmo wrote:

However A) this was a thread asking for dealer suggestions not the pros and cons of specific dealers. B) If you have any further negative opinions on my opinions - I don't care **** off.

A) Fair comment and I hold my hand up - you are right and I should not have posted, I apoligise to all.....

B) Like wise as long as you remember that also....

Pete · Devon's Best

Lost wrote:
I wonder if Tremletts in Asburton would take on a franchise such as AJP they do a lot of work for TRF folk ?

He doesn't sell motorcycles, only servicing and spares.

Only complaint I've ever heard is that he is always busy. (Didn't charge me for soldering a wire back onto my ccm rear light for it's mot this week - nice man).

Simmo · Expert

jt wrote:
Recent event involving a close friend......and the mark up on Shacks bike

They are a shop they need to make a profit. They need to pay staff, insurances, rent, utility bills etc. etc.. If people don't like big mark ups by dealers perhaps they should set up their own shop and see how easy it is.

Never had a problem with Greenlane, Bikeworx, Speed, Bridge, SP, NHS, DWP, DVLA or the Police (text book arrest, no complaints) - don't understand why anyone does, must be an attitudinal thing.

However this was a thread asking for dealer suggestions not the pros and cons of specific dealers. If you have any further negative opinions on my opinions - I don't care **** off.

delvey91 · Devon's Best

Greenlane dont make me laugh ! My mate Dan reeves is the latest case with a ttr he bought from them, dear oh dear

Nige · Expert

I think Brian should do it

Tigerman · Expert

jt wrote:
Not if they want to sell any

Steve see PM

Bit harsh JT?

Tigerman · Expert

Simmo wrote:
Greenlane Motorcycles

Yes I agree, Greenlanes have always looked after me and my bikes well.

jt · Powermonger!!

Not if they want to sell any disbelief

Steve see PM

Simmo · Expert

Greenlane Motorcycles

Lost · Expert

I wonder if Tremletts in Asburton would take on a franchise such as AJP they do a lot of work for TRF folk ?

jt · Powermonger!!

Recent event involving a close friend......and the mark up on Shacks bike hmm

-- Edited by jt on Friday 5th of October 2012 07:28:21 PM

Steve H · Devon's Best

Copied from the Cotton Farm posts

Steve H wrote:
I've just e-mailed AJP saying how disappointed many of us are at their shortsightedness.
I'll let you know what (if any) reply I get.

I've had a reply from Alan Pumfrey from AJP.

He explained the reasons for pulling out (before it was cancelled anyway cry ) & he made quite a lot of sense.

I'll put his full reply in the next newsletter but in the meantime he's asked for suggestions as to possible dealers in the area.

He says it's a good opener to be able to say that an organisation with the clout of the TRF has recommended you.

-- Edited by Steve H on Friday 5th of October 2012 08:53:16 AM

jt · Powermonger!!

RE: AJP - Could be a good buy?

Lost · Expert

Reminder the hole line is ave at Albion and just to remind you there is a PR4 and a PR5 ave for Demo ??? so scoot on down there folks PR5 looks good for the money a little heavy compared to my 350 ? nice bits on it ide change levers get some hand gaurds and the optional power pipe sounds interesting folks ! sim to ackrapovic ?

jt · Powermonger!!

Called into albion today and had a look - PR5 is the one that looked best 'up to the job'.

About £4500 - I'd like to see a Rieju Marathon beside it to compare...

Either way I'd not by a new one, but recon it could be a good value used buy in a year or so.

Nige · Expert

jt wrote:
I did like the underseat tank

It all makes sence but they need to make a proper down draft cylinderhead like on a sports bike. The distance/route from inlet valve to airbox intake must sap the power.

Also I'm abit concerned that the 125 and 200s seen on ebay seam to have had most of the parts replaced after very litle use!

-- Edited by Nige on Thursday 5th of April 2012 09:03:12 PM

RichT4 · Champion

FBF wrote:

I was refering more to the value of the Euro (pronounced Err ohhh)

but yeah.

I thought an almost typed the same thing. I'd say there's a good chance the price won't be in Euro's by the end of the year. biggrin

Ming · Devon's Best

The little Rieju MR200 looks like a belter if you're after a small cheap new bike. About 3 and a bit grand and it has decent suspension, brakes and a proven Yam engine. Much better bet than the AJP I reckon but again - parts and bling availability probably the downside.

In my previous post, I think I should have said "the ONLY good thing about a KTM" to save people having cardiac arrest hmm

devondan · Champion

Reiju seem to hold up ok!

Dan

FBF · Clubman A

kevinred wrote:

FBF wrote:
Give it a few months and it will be about £300.

Your probably right - the "non-well known" marks seem to lose a lot of value quite rapidly.

I was refering more to the value of the Euro (pronounced Err ohhh)

but yeah.

PeterBc · Clubman B

Nah, I'm in Torquay and the there's been no tremors here

FBF · Clubman A

He must have fallen and banged his head.