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Simmo


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How do people want to pay for events?

Nearly 80 votes cast. Thank you!

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Cheque in the post
   Currently possible


Direct bank transfer (BACS)
   Currently possible, free to you and DGTRF.  Not sure if it is a good idea to put sort code and account number on a public website.  Maybe just for members in members only area.


Cash to an officer either beforehand or on the day
   Currently possible.

Google Checkout
   No votes

One off direct debit facillitated online
   No votes


Credit/Debit card over the 'phone
   Not really practical as mobile terminal would need to be rented and a commission charged.  Can be done with a smartphone adapter on as a PAYG basis (2.75%) or manually online (3.5%). NEEDS SOMEONE TO BE ON THE END OF THE 'PHONE.

Paying on the day by credit/debit card
   As above but with the added complication of possible coverage difficulties for terminal/smartphone.


Other
  No votes.

PayPal
   The most popular additional choice.  Can be used by those without a PayPal account to pay by DC/CC online.  Their charges are 3.4 + 20p per transaction or for a non profit org 1.4% + 20p. See below.
Credit/Debit card online
   See above...
https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/standard

STRF's Exmoor page looks like this:

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which leads to this page:

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which leads to this: (NOTE option to pay with CC/DC)

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See http://www.somerset-trf.com/exmoordays.html to play with it yourself.  Not my fault if you actually spend money on a past event.

I'm perfectly heppy to administer the PayPal system if it is decided to add this payment option to what we already use.  Minimal work would need to be done on our website as all the action happens on PayPal's site.

TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT MONTHLY MEET ON 12TH FEBRUARY



-- Edited by Simmo on Monday 4th of February 2013 08:04:36 PM



-- Edited by Simmo on Tuesday 5th of February 2013 02:44:38 PM

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Nice graph Simmo how are you with Pie chartswink



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This is a pie chart

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delvey91 wrote:



This is a pie chart


Very good Jacksmile just thought though you must have got the key the wrong way roundconfuse Who ate all the piesbiggrinbiggrinwink



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russell11031967 wrote:

Nice graph Simmo how are you with Pie chartswink

I tried pie graphs, 2d and 3d but what is above was clearer in my opinion.  I'm red/green colour blind and pie charts didn't float my boat.



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It wasn't a criticism mate, great worksmile



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russell11031967 wrote:

It wasn't a criticism mate, great worksmile

I know. Just use Word,piece of pi...



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Words/thought/ideas etc. added...



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Good work, could easily add a quid to the event charge to cover PayPal if that option is used?

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nickpdo wrote:

Good work, could easily add a quid to the event charge to cover PayPal if that option is used?

Not very fair on those that choose to pay online or with a paypal account.  You've got to speculate to accumulate....



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One has to pay for life's little conveniences.

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One has to pay for life's little conveniences.

Charging a premium for paying on ebay via paypal is against their rules.  I think their's is a good rule.  I'm not prepared to administer it if we are going to charge a premium for what the majority of respondents want.  What time is your train to Nuremburg? biggrin



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Simmo wrote:
What time is your train to Nuremburg? biggrin

10:58 wink



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Martin Keswick (STRF Chairman)  says it is so much easier, once the event is finished I just transfer the money into our account.
Somerset TRFs last event had 200 entrants, no  cheques.  About 150 used PayPal.  Not all of them had a PayPal account just paid online using CC/DC.

STRF set up as a non-profit organisation with PayPal which means just 1.4% + 20p per transaction.  A £20 event ticket purchase would therefore cost us just 48p to administer.

The easier it is for people to register and pay for an event the more people are likely to attend.



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Pete wrote:

What about the tax implications of the group having income?

Does our usual turnover come close to tax threshold limits?

 

Probably one for the national forum as we are just a satellite group of a national organisation and we already have income. I'm not expecting 500 entries for our next event just because we may be using PayPal.



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Schoe000 wrote:
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That's a loss of £72 using the event you mentioned as an example, but I guess you have to balance that against the time/effort a volunteer puts in to receive and bank payments (free).

 OR if you attract 4 more riders as a result of using PayPal you have made an extra £8.

Thank you. I knew there was a subtle logical answer I just couldn't see it through a fog of negativity. biggrin

I think you meant £6.08. wink



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That's a loss of £72 using the event you mentioned as an example, but I guess you have to balance that against the time/effort a volunteer puts in to receive and bank payments (free).



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Hoops wrote:

That's a loss of £72 using the event you mentioned as an example, but I guess you have to balance that against the time/effort a volunteer puts in to receive and bank payments (free).

I prefer the term administrative expense.

Events being undersubscribed results in a loss...



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What about the tax implications of the group having income?

Does our usual turnover come close to tax threshold limits?

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Hoops wrote:

That's a loss of £72 using the event you mentioned as an example, but I guess you have to balance that against the time/effort a volunteer puts in to receive and bank payments (free).

 OR if you attract 4 more riders as a result of using PayPal you have made an extra £8.



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