Devon TRF Group Forum

Trevor Foxon · Expert

192-199 blocked

wackyracer · Elite

Nice one!

sounds like a nice job smile

Thanks for the heads up my friend!

wackyracer · Elite

Afternoon Ros, Jonathan

Hope your both very well?

Ros you recently mentioned that the PRoW wardens would be happy to have assistance on the UCR network, hopefully we can make this a reality

Weve had a photo received by one of our members of the Devon TRF about a tree blocking this UCR in Dawlish, looks like a dead tree which has blown down from the bank on the Southern side located on the Western side of the river/stream

Please find photos attached of the tree and location map provided, (Ive drawn an arrow on the map where I believe its located) could be an Oak or Elm not quite sure from the photo, apart form the top of the tree being dead

The UCR in question could do with a volunteer clearance team once bird nesting season is over with

Happy to deal with said tree removal if required with volunteer help

Insurance details can be attached from my business plus my chainsaw qualification along with all correct PPE will be worn on site, Hi vis if required?

Risk assessment completion (DCC PRoW P3 compliant)

Tree work signs will be erected at either end, social distancing enabled to DCC P3 standards

Kindest Regards

Ian Collins

Devon TRF

Sidmouth P3

Tribey · Expert

Well done Wacky.

I'm happy to assist, as and when.

Trevor Foxon · Expert

Tell me when and I'll be there.

NickJ · Clubman A

Me too Ian,
Nick

wackyracer · Elite

Rapid response today from Devon PRoW

Huge thanks to all the responses from the lads in the DTRF, we might need to react to this or these obstructions really quick, 'Rapid response team to deploy' wink

Might be as soon as Sunday morning! They'll find it hard to resist the wackmeisters offers biggrin

Keep the offers of help coming as we might need a team of six or eight, spotters for potential users are just as valuable too, this needs some planning and sensible people on site, we have it all at hand, time to shine lads smile

Dear both,

Coincidentally, I've just walked the route and found two trees across. The large Oak at the eastern end will require specialist attention I think, as is quite large and hung up. The dead Elm across at head height, would be more straightforward cut and clear.

However, thanks to being alerted to the route I came across other works required, scraping the mud from most of the path and clearing the build up of debris from the footbridge.

I'd be more than happy for TRF involvement on any or all of the tasks!

Let's discuss further.

Kind regards,

Jon

Response immediately....

Crickey Ian is there a tree under that lot?

Thank you so much for the offer of clearance, I would be delighted for you to do the work but I need to check the situation with Ros Mills.

I shall ask the question and be in touch tomorrow

Many thanks Ian and stay safe

Ros

Response again after Jon replied...

Fab! Sounds like we are all singing from the same song sheet!

R

Extra photos supplied form Devon PRoW warden Jon Rowlands, who walked the green road

Bridge in the middle or half way through the green road

Elm trees down too

wackyracer · Elite

Tribey wrote:
Well done Wacky.
I'm happy to assist, as and when.

Appreciate that Tribey as always your never shy to offer!

wackyracer · Elite

Trevor Foxon wrote:
Tell me when and I'll be there.

Might be Sunday morning this week, will post up when I have responses form DPRoW

wackyracer · Elite

NickJ wrote:
Me too Ian,
Nick

Cheers Nick

Happy to have you onboard as always another keen geezer smile

wackyracer · Elite

My response

Wow Jon

Theres a bit of work to do there for sure, thanks for the very prompt reply, love it!

Yes weve done clearance work before on the Roncombe river in the parish of Sidmouth (under P3), similar case with heavy duty branches building up in front of the bridge and the under side to, we winched them out the way with my Tirfor winch to the near side river bank, saved the bridge for sure, so Im not a stranger to the effects of debris near bridges

Happy to tackle the trees but understand your concerns with the larger Oak, I know my limitations and will of course leave well alone if I dont think the tree is an easy job, however saying that if there is an available stable tree to fix my winch strop to we could be in business for slowly winching her of the bank, obviously I dont know any of this until a site inspection is carried out.

Weve got interest within the Devon TRF in the role of volunteers lined up, well be waiting for yourself and Ros to reply with any feedback we receive from you, even if your uncertain with the larger tree Im sure the volunteer crew would be happy to remove the debris from around the bridge plus check any other small issues on the Eastern side of the UCR.

Lets keep in contact and work a way forward to resolve a few blockages and make the green road safer and more importantly open to all users

The TRF is largely about conserving green roads! Especially with the geography of Devon we all have a huge list of jobs to do!

Many many thanks ros for the response (as always a great credit to the Devon PRoW team, thanks) its great to see things progressing well, I thank you!

Keep safe

Really looking forward to speaking to you both tomorrow

Kindest Regards

Ian Collins

trackman · Clubman B

Hi Wacky
Any up date ? I could be available, was going for a ride but can do that another day.
Cheers John.

wackyracer · Elite

trackman wrote:
Hi Wacky
Any up date ? I could be available, was going for a ride but can do that another day.
Cheers John.

Sorry John

wont be happening - Insurance wink wink

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

Give me a nudge ian if you need by big saw, the one you have not seen.

wackyracer · Elite

doug9270 wrote:
Give me a nudge ian if you need by big saw, the one you have not seen.

Thanks much appreciated Doug but I have a big weapon myself now, obsession has moved on a tad mate, nice to have a selection of special saws biggrin biggrin

Tribey · Expert

wackyracer wrote:
trackman wrote:
Hi Wacky
Any up date ? I could be available, was going for a ride but can do that another day.
Cheers John.
Sorry John
wont be happening - Insurance

Whilst not understanding the reason, I'll find something else to do this Sunday.

wackyracer · Elite

Tribey wrote:
wackyracer wrote:
trackman wrote:
Hi Wacky
Any up date ? I could be available, was going for a ride but can do that another day.
Cheers John.
Sorry John
wont be happening - Insurance
Whilst not understanding the reason, I'll find something else to do this Sunday.

Need a copy of the TRF insurance to send to Devon PRoW, if all okay and it ticks the boxes then we are a Go!

I've finally convinced them I'm not a Muppet when it comes to clearing the fallen trees and have invested heavily into the gear I/we need to complete the job

We're also on the Brink of becoming DTRF-P3 with (Hopefully) a back up of funding, so we will be more in-line with the Parish Paths partnership or taken into that group within Devon County

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

wackyracer wrote:
doug9270 wrote:
Give me a nudge ian if you need by big saw, the one you have not seen.
Thanks much appreciated Doug but I have a big weapon myself now, obsession has moved on a tad mate, nice to have a selection of special saws

Willing to travel if i am required biggrin biggrin

wackyracer · Elite

doug9270 wrote:
wackyracer wrote:
doug9270 wrote:
Give me a nudge ian if you need by big saw, the one you have not seen.
Thanks much appreciated Doug but I have a big weapon myself now, obsession has moved on a tad mate, nice to have a selection of special saws
Willing to travel if i am required

Thanks Doug much appreciated

youaintseenme · Clubman B

heh

i.imgur.com/vzw72.jpg

ttrtim · Clubman B

Keen to assist, depending on day or evening decided upon, cheers

Tribey · Expert

This one is still blocked by the large oak, east of the river crossing.

I'll submit a fallen tree report on the DCC website reference number: W201355625.

-- Edited by Tribey on Monday 7th of September 2020 05:34:09 PM

wackyracer · Elite

PRoW already know about the blockage....been in discussion with them over the matter,

got hung up over the insurance issue...

waiting for the insurance clarification before proceeding.......

Tribey · Expert

wackyracer wrote:
PRoW already know about the blockage....been in discussion with them over the matter,
got hung up over the insurance issue...
waiting for the insurance clarification before proceeding.......

Yes I know that Ian, I was just trying to spur them into action, because it's been like this since June.

However, of course, that failed because Highways had handed responsibility for maintenance of this lane to PROW, so they have immediately washed their hands of my fallen tree report by replying Cat 12 (green lane) no longer maintained at public expense when they really mean, no longer maintained at our public funded departments expense, but by another publicly funded department.

It's a big tree, from a high bank, still attached.

wackyracer · Elite

You haven't been 'Wack-a-tised' yet Tribey biggrin biggrin

I'll pop down the weekend for some fun if all the obstacles are still there, which I'm reading they are from your previous post wink

Will have a look see at that bridge to if the debris is still wedged there

Just deciding what attire for the job, probably water poof socks + me chain saw boots with shorts biggrin biggrin

NickJ · Clubman A

Hi Ian, apologies mate - we are off to Loch Lomond this weekend.
Hope the weather holds (for both of us!)
Nick

Jerry atterick · Expert

Had a good look, walked down through. Machinery been in and pretty much destroyed the trail. I couldn't really find any sign of where it used to be.
Perhaps DCC might have an answer.
I hope so.

wackyracer · Elite

NickJ wrote:
Hi Ian, apologies mate - we are off to Loch Lomond this weekend.
Hope the weather holds (for both of us!)
Nick

It'll be fine for me I'm not so sure about Scotland biggrin

Have a great time on Lomond, spent many a time there, great place,

See you soon Nick

Cheers Wacky smile

wackyracer · Elite

Jerry atterick wrote:
Had a good look, walked down through. Machinery been in and pretty much destroyed the trail. I couldn't really find any sign of where it used to be.
Perhaps DCC might have an answer.
I hope so.

Destroyed what Jerry? confuse

Jerry atterick · Expert

Couldn't find any trace of track.

Tribey · Expert

Jerry atterick wrote:
Couldn't find any trace of track.

I think Richard is commenting on the blocked woodland track 192-207, not this one at Dawlish.

Jerry atterick · Expert

Think I've lost the plot.
Met a nice lady back of Oxton house who pointed out the first section is a permitted something. Last time I rode this part her f*******g house wasn't even built!
I was everso polite, apologised and told her I wouldn't ride it again. The reason was that her dog didn't like bikes.
Luckily I was lost for words, wished her well and carried on.
Lovely day, by the way.

wackyracer · Elite

Thanks for the confirmation on the status

Should be fun Sorting out some of the problems wink

wackyracer · Elite

Most of the obstructions have been removed today

4 hanging down oak limbs with the remaining large Oak trunk left in place spanning the green road, its bridged on both banks - solid

3 Laurel branches removed

2 Hazel branches removed

1 large Elm tree removed from the middle at chest height

Bridge cleared of debris

Public relations boosted and built with the locals on the Eastern end

3.5 hours having fun

2 pints consumed at the Anchor wink Pops was parched

beautiful weather for such fun! smile

Cubber · Expert

Nice one Wacky & Pops, etc. biggrin

Where would DgTRF be without you and your team? confuse

Martyn

Tribey · Expert

Fantastic work Wacky. I thought you were only going to have a look!

I'm glad you took someone with you to do all the grafting, he earnt that drink.

Well done you two.

wackyracer · Elite

Cubber wrote:
Nice one Wacky & Pops, etc.
Where would DgTRF be without you and your team?
Martyn

Still miss you out on the lanes Bud

But remembered the times you did pop out to help

Thanks smile

wackyracer · Elite

Tribey wrote:
Fantastic work Wacky. I thought you were only going to have a look!
I'm glad you took someone with you to do all the grafting, he earnt that drink.
Well done you two.

Yeah your right I was but Pops never just likes talking about work, so we took some gear just in case he was feeling like some grafting

Plenty left to do Tribey...... wink

whole lane needs a clear

tree needs winching from the river/stream

Raised walkway needs building in the boggy section for all locals that would like to use the road (thats why there is a foot bridge) hmm biggrin biggrin

Need to organise a return visit especially for the locals to use the road as well smile

wackyracer · Elite

Clearing this green road on the 1st November 11am

winching out the tree and its attached stump

Cutting foliage on both sides

Removing the grass in the roads surface

Lets us know if you plan to attend and I'll add you to the risk assessment

Many Thanks

Wacky

wackyracer · Elite

Devon PRoW have been informed of our intentions to clear plus winch out the fallen tree form the river

Reply form R.D. thanking and looking forward to the photos of works carried out wink

A previous email form Jon R. wishing to grade the lane and add a ditch

I replied there was no need as the surface was good apart from one section over the bridge which is ankle deep with mud, I've offered to install a raised walk way just for residents or other users wishing to cross the bog. The walkway would only have a limited width so as not to spoil the fun for trail bikes

I've tried to stave off a sanitisation of this green road but haven't received no reply from Jon R.

Wacky smile

Tribey · Expert

Put me down for Sunday 1st.

Do I need to bring any tools?

wackyracer · Elite

Tribey wrote:
Put me down for Sunday 1st.
Do I need to bring any tools?

Thank you Ray, very much appreciated

Gloves + boots to deal with ankle deep mud wink

If you have a Mattock for digging out grasses or alike, maybe a spade smile

Thanks again

Wacky smile

Trevor Foxon · Expert

I'm in, ill pack me sandles.

Trev

wackyracer · Elite

Trevor Foxon wrote:
I'm in, ill pack me sandles.
Trev

Thank you Trevor

Much appreciated smile

trackman · Clubman B

Hi Guys I should be up for some fun in the sand .
John.

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

Can you add me to zee list, any special tools required ?

NickJ · Clubman A

Hi Ian
Available to help if you still need more OAP assistance..
If so which side of the river do we park on??
Cheers

Nick

wackyracer · Elite

John, thanks very much for the reply, your most welcome and yes plenty to do

Doug, done most of the wood cutting but there is still one tree in the river to pull out and cut, so yes if you like Bud

Nick, Always glad to have you on board mate, I'll post a photo of a map tonight

Gentlemen, I'll pop up to the farm and check how many digger tracks I have, we can insert a walkway on the road in the boggy section

Don't forget to bring some PPE, wellies, gloves, coat Etc.

I'll bring some work signs, wheel barrow, rope for hauling out the tree as there is enough bodies we can pull this out by hand wink

If there are enough digger tracks for the walkway, we'll need some buckets for hauling stone or wheelbarrows, shovels, spades, long stem shovels Etc

Please PM your next of kin contact tele/mobile number then I'll add it to the risk assessment, no data will be kept on file as I'll do risk assessment per job

Hopefully we can order some great weather too smile

Thank you so much for all the replies

Wacky

wackyracer · Elite

Gentlemen, Parking can be found out on the yellow road, wide enough for other cars to pass and probably park 4 cars there, if sensible parking is achieved wink

Thank you to everyone who has sent in their next of kin details, cheers for that, much appreciated smile

Wacky smile

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Trevor Foxon · Expert

Wacky , your map is very much in the style of A A Milne, where is Eeyores gloomy place? Can we play Pooh sticks once the bridge is cleared?

yours Christopher Robin