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hampsterracing · Devon's Best

Electric motorbikes on common ?

youaintseenme · Clubman B

The local Surron dealer might be the problem .
They were based in Exmouth and their promo videos looked like they were from the common .

And if they are offering try outs it would be an obvious temptation to go somewhere local ......

TTR · Powermonger!!

Looks like CMS are now the Surron dealers Noel - see https://surron.co.uk/pages/find-a-dealer-surron-electric-bikes

chriscole · Clubman A

The Sur ron dealer in Exmouth is taking the proverbial they refer to their track and then have videos of riding on Woodbury common

https://twoeasy.co.uk/videos, I hope they aren't telling their customers its legal to ride an electric motorbike where you like

Tribey · Expert

Surrons own private test area!

surron test woodbury.JPG

NickJ · Clubman A

And to make your Surron full electric motorbike 'legal', you can buy a pedal 'conversion' kit for £100!

-- Edited by NickJ on Saturday 6th of March 2021 04:15:04 PM

youaintseenme · Clubman B

NickJ wrote:
And to make your Surron full electric motorbike 'legal', you can buy a pedal 'conversion' kit for £100!

-- Edited by NickJ on Saturday 6th of March 2021 04:15:04 PM

Yup and I was tempted ......

but it really looks too much like a motor cycle and even plod could probably differentiate

would it be helpful to pass the o.p. on to the current Surron dealer and possibly educate them a bit regarding short term gain versus long term loss for regular mpv users ?

cee-b · Clubman A

It is wrong that they're being used on the Common; that fact is beyond question and I don't wish to detract from any efforts to stop it.

I did have to smile though, that the point that they are 'much quieter than regular ones' was used as an additional complaint hmm

pug · Clubman B

Have nearly splatted two kid's on Electric scooters in as many weeks with the van around the Town hear and not the cheap Chinese things either hear tell there is a hand full of them bombing round the place

-- Edited by pug on Sunday 7th of March 2021 10:54:17 AM

Jerry atterick · Expert

Would I buy one, if I could afford one, Yup.
Devils advocate, from a horse riders perspective, they are a nightmare (electric cars even worse)
They do pose a real threat.
Motorbike more in your face, but much saver if ridden appropriately.
I understand fully the fun, ease of going further, fitness etc.
As I said "devils advocate", yes I'd love one but a startled horse, dead pilot, things might change quicker than we'd like.

wackyracer · Powermonger!!

Yes and your grandfathers probably said that about the first petrol motorcycle they saw - Oh my christ, Dangerous!

The future is here and there will be more.........

Jerry atterick · Expert

wackyracer wrote:
Yes and your grandfathers probably said that about the first petrol motorcycle they saw - Oh my christ, Dangerous!
The future is here and there will be more.........

Yes, of course it is.

Rightly so!

I dont have a problem with any of it.

Sorry, but you have totally missed the point!!!

"Devils advocate"

You have chosen to see only the benefits, some of these benefits arent beneficial to others.

More and more users - rightly so!

Free to use on most of the lanes, commons etc, again rightly so!

All the other users wont take kindly - fact.

Silence is a bonus - downside no one hears you / me coming.

Ramblers remember jumping out of their wits.

Horse riders, horses are "f*****g" stupid animals at best, jump at pheasants etc etc, I know, my wife has two.

My point is that from most peoples perspective these bikes are bikes, full stop, just powered differently.

Yes they are green, yes I love the thought that we can ride everywhere we always wanted to on out trail bikes etc.

Hopefully I will get one soon and do all the clandestine bits, visit places I have always visited, just far more relaxed, and always will do so.

How long before we become a menace?

Who has more clout "Ramblers, Green, Equine"?

Exactly.

As I said, I dont care whatever people get upto. ;) ;)

Hopefully, that explains the situation a little clearer.

Jhonny Yoga · Sportsman

Personally I think electric vehicles - I drive a Toyota Prius as my work vehicle and I also ride a e-m-bike pedelec for leisure - should emit a sound when in motion.

It should be one sound for all universally acknowledged and understood; not an individual user's choice.

Be honest, those reversing beeps from big trucks... jauntily just jangle nerves. I think a good universal warning of an approaching e-mpv sound should have a deeply bass emphatically toned natural prejudice: as opposed to being a sharp, jumpy n nervy noise. I suggest a constant, significantly elongated and loudish, constantly variable volume depending on speed, would work. A large animal, creating a a mammoth FART sound, possibly interspersed with the special sound of cow's spattering loose bowel emission to create splatting cow splats and pats, would therefore work?

Be good to suggest it to Greta as a way to reduce methane emission and retain traditional nature noises to record on her I-Phone biggrin loaded with rare earth minerals.

-- Edited by Jhonny Yoga on Sunday 7th of March 2021 10:34:25 PM

Pete · Expert

Jhonny Yoga wrote:
Personally I think electric vehicles - I drive a Toyota Prius as my work vehicle and I also ride a e-m-bike pedelec for leisure - should emit a sound when in motion.
It should be one sound for all universally acknowledged and understood; not an individual user's choice.
Be honest, those reversing beeps from big trucks... jauntily just jangle nerves. I think a good universal warning of an approaching e-mpv sound should have a deeply bass emphatically toned natural prejudice: as opposed to being a sharp, jumpy n nervy noise. I suggest a constant, significantly elongated and loudish, constantly variable volume depending on speed, would work. A large animal, creating a a mammoth FART sound, possibly interspersed with the special sound of cow's spattering loose bowel emission to create splatting cow splats and pats, would therefore work?
Be good to suggest it to Greta as a way to reduce methane emission and retain traditional nature noises to record on her I-Phone loaded with rare earth minerals.

Or you could use one of these...

bicycle bell.jpg

My e-bike was supplied without a bell and it wasn't long before I went shopping because walkers are often spectacularly unaware of their surroundings. All wheeled users have a duty of care to other users of the ways they use. If people do not get enough warning of your approach they become frightened and angry. It is frustrating but not their fault you startle them because you fail to warn of your approach.

And if you drive so fast that people you meet do not have the time to get out of the way... slow...down...

Jhonny Yoga · Sportsman

My experience has been that people walking in car parks are the folk most endangered by electric vehicles. They quite understandably don't take kindly to the shock of a close proximity / loud toot from a car's horn. There will have to be a change in law / regulation perhaps people will be able to choose their own EV noise, depending on environment...that way lies chaos (in my view) I'd vote for a long sustained farting noise being adopted by all EVs regardless of environment.

Johnnyboxer · Clubman B

chriscole wrote:
The Sur ron dealer in Exmouth is taking the proverbial they refer to their track and then have videos of riding on Woodbury common
https://twoeasy.co.uk/videos, I hope they aren't telling their customers its legal to ride an electric motorbike where you like

Not much pedalling gone on with them............. ebikes for fatties

Jhonny Yoga · Sportsman

The fact that there are no pedals should indicate that pedalling would be an issue for slim attractive folk as well as "fatties" . One would hope an officer of the law would be able to use their detective skills to observe the lack of pedals and bring both thin and fat offenders to justice. However, the way the world seems to be going they would probably rather pursue someone who made non socially inclusive remarks on a jaunty little forum instead.

Tribey · Expert

It's got to be a two stroke sound surely......Ring-Ding-Ding-Ding-Ding-Ding...........

youaintseenme · Clubman B

Yeah JY

I kinda agree but perhaps something accoustically similar to the greater spotted woody ( who is active all day at the moment ) would suffice ?

It might be easier to sell the idea .........

www.youtube.com/watch

ttr steve · Devon's Best

Tribey wrote:
It's got to be a two stroke sound surely......Ring-Ding-Ding-Ding-Ding-Ding...........

And smell like one smile smile smile

Schoe000 · Expert

Johnnyboxer wrote:
chriscole wrote:
The Sur ron dealer in Exmouth is taking the proverbial they refer to their track and then have videos of riding on Woodbury common
https://twoeasy.co.uk/videos, I hope they aren't telling their customers its legal to ride an electric motorbike where you like
Not much pedalling gone on with them............. ebikes for fatties

And for shorties